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Comments (23) to “Radovan Karadzic – selected poems”

1. Trond wrote:

   Hva blir det neste? Utvalgte dikt fra Hitler eller Pol Pot?

   Posted on 22-jul-08 at 6:51 pm | Permalink

2. autonom wrote:

   Bush skal visstnok väre glad i å skrive vers…Så hvem vet hva som dukker opp ;) Men du som har som fremste kampsak porno- og homoliberalisme har sikkert et rikholdig bibliotek å velge fra som er tilpasset dine åndsevner.

   Posted on 22-jul-08 at 6:56 pm | Permalink

3. Trond wrote:

   Vel nå er ikke min fremste sak porno, men det vet du sikkert allerede. Hva er egentlig verst? Støtte etnisk rensing eller porno?

   Posted on 22-jul-08 at 7:09 pm | Permalink

4. Grenseløs wrote:

   Karadzic var en skikkelig kvalming, selv før han started på sin militære karriere. Å glorifisere han er veldig, veldig kvalmende.

   Posted on 22-jul-08 at 7:17 pm | Permalink

5. Grenseløs wrote:

   «Gi en mann makt og du ser hva han er»

   Serbokroatisk ordtak

   Posted on 22-jul-08 at 7:19 pm | Permalink

6. autonom wrote:

   Nei, Trond, det vet jeg ikke, da det er de begrep du definerer deg i forhold til og som ikke betyr noe for meg. Din side gir interykk av det som de fleste såkalt liberale er interessert i, nemlig å fremme sin egen nedrige og infantile egoisme på bekostning av fellesskapet.

   Derimot er jeg sterkt imot okkupasjon og ödeleggelse av andres territorium og kultur gjennom våpenmakt eller innvandring. Kroater og serbere på Balkan er offer for dette. Det vil si, de hadde fint klart å kaste av seg åket om det ikke var for humanistisk intervensjon gjennom terrorbombing og ökonomisk utpessing.

   En mygg som deg kan uansett ikke forstå en titan som Radovan K., sånn er det nå bare.

   Les litt tabloidkrim, litt Stieg Larsson, det er jo det liberale og sosialdemokrater kaller litteratur.

   Posted on 22-jul-08 at 7:20 pm | Permalink

7. Trond wrote:

   Jeg kan jo se at du ikke vet så mye om idelogi, noe også din side viser. Dete r alltid morsomt når liberale som kjemper for individets frihet blir møt med kritikk av mennesker som påstår å representere felleskapet og personer som ikke tåler at andre mennesker ønsker å leve sitt liv på sin måte.

   Du er sterkt imot okkupasjon, men allikevel søtter du en drapsmann og person som var sterkt medvirkende til etnisk rensing.

   jeg har kanskje problemer med å forstå hvorfor Radovan K var stor, men jeg forstår nå hvfor det fortsatt finner nasizter i norge. Jeg forstå også nå hvorfor enkelte fortasatt benekter utryddelsen av jøder under den 2 verdenskrig.

   Stieg Larson har jeg ikke lest, men jeg kan anbefalle Ken Follet pluss mye annen god krim. Kanskje du burde lese noe av dette når du ikke pugger mein kampf

   Posted on 22-jul-08 at 7:28 pm | Permalink

8. autonom wrote:

   Grenselös, så prosaisk. Uten definisjon, uten grenser, hva har vi da? Intet, absolutt intet.

   Ja, hva gjorde Radovan K. når han fikk makten. Han fulgte de bosniske serbernes eget önske om å ville forenes med Serbia. Dette var i strid med de globale multikulturalistena anfört av USA og EU, som da brukte sin väpnede spydspiss NATO til å tvinge serberne i kne. Så ja, derfor bedömmer jeg Radovan
   for å väre en mann av äre, til forskjell fra de som selger sitt folks fremtid til skampris.

   PS. Serbo-kroatisk? Du vet at der en en konstruksjon som å hevde at norsk og svensk er ett og samme språk, som ble skapt av det kommunistiske Yugoslavia? Det finnes ikke serbo-kroatisk, men det finnes et serbisk og et kroatisk språk med store likheter, men med mange ulikheter.

   Posted on 22-jul-08 at 7:32 pm | Permalink

9. autonom wrote:

   Trond igjen, ja de liberale er de om sammen med marxister og kristne utrettelig forsöker å bevise at deres abstraksjoner har noen universell rett.

   Noe de ikke har, derimot har folks kamp for egen kultur og territorum lagt grunnen for alt som vi idag kan kalle for höykultur gjennom historien.

   Din mangel på ideologisk kunnskap beviser du gjennom å kalle alle du er uenige med for nazister. Bush er nazist, Milosevic er nazist, Saddam Hussein er nazist, Radovan Karadzic og Autonom er nazist ! hvilken ideologisk stringens! Idehistorie var ikke din sterke side? Vel, du kan tröste deg med at det har du til felles med såkalte liberale som aksepterer drap bare det er i det liberale demokratiets navn. Da er ikke noe offer for stort.

   För man sammenligner en tekst med en annen, bör man helst ha lest begge.
   Mein Kampf har du tydeligvis ikke lest, heler ikke har du lest noe särlig av AUTONOMs teskter, men det er ikke så farlig, vi klarer oss godt uten deg.

   Så sant du ikke har noe annet argument å komme med enn nazist, så henviser jeg deg til de vanlig politisk korrekte dikatoriske organer hvor dere kan late som dere diskuterer noe av betydning, mens makten fortsetter likegyldig og uforandret av newspeak-ordflommen.

   Posted on 22-jul-08 at 7:45 pm | Permalink

10. Lena wrote:

    Radovan Karadzic, frihetskjemper og poet. En stor mann. Og en sann helt. En folkeforkjemper. Enda en helt som har måttet bukke under for verdensmakta.

    Tragisk.

    Setter pris på at du belyser hans dikt Autonom

    Posted on 22-jul-08 at 9:13 pm | Permalink

11. Joe wrote:

    Long live Karadzic!

    Posted on 23-jul-08 at 4:50 am | Permalink

12. autonom wrote:

    Ja Lena, og nå skal han til slakterbenken som så mange av Europas store sønner siden ‘45.

    Dte hjelper ikke å fortvile, men å la seg inspirere og kjempe.

    Posted on 23-jul-08 at 8:16 pm | Permalink

13. NR wrote:

    Auto, du må ikke la deg trolle av bullshitterne:)
    Litt mer seriøst: Det er mye Ad Hominem og Appeal to Emotions ute og går her. Typ: Karadzic var en drapsmann. Karadzic var en drittsekk. Men uansett Karadzic’ personlighet og eventuelle karakterbrister mener jeg vi må bøye oss for sannheten: Hvis det virkelig fins indikasjoner på at Srebrenicamassakren var en hel eller delvis Potemkinkulisse, burde dette undersøkes nærmere, og eventuelle spor av manipulasjon burde avdekkes og dokumenteres. Og selv om massakren var et faktum, er den ekstreme vinklingen av konflikten nok til at man blir ekstra skeptisk.

    Tilbake til fokuset på Karadzic’ person: Selv om vi tenker oss at Karadzic var en drittsekk, en psykopat, en drapsmann: So be it. Hvis vi innrømmer at det er rett å forsvare eget folk og eget territorium, blir ikke den naturgitte retten degradert av lederskikkelsens eventuelle karakterbrister. Husk at mange av historiens store menn var syke. Og jeg ser ingen motsetninger mellom storhet og sykdom: Det ene utelukker ikke det andre. Ja, kanskje han var gal. Kanskje han var syk. Men forsatt utførte han disse bragdene. (Kom til å tenke på Bjørneboes skriverier på skolen om Aleksander den Store – det falt ikke helt i smak hos lærerne husker jeg rett)

    Posted on 23-jul-08 at 9:49 pm | Permalink

14. autonom wrote:

    Takk NR, nei man bör ikke la seg påvirke av det snows of the enemy som Doug P./DIJ synger. Likevel kan man ikke bare sitte i elfenbenstårnet, man må konfrontere dumheten og ignoransen.

    Poengene dine er gode, men i det hele tatt å gå inn i en debatt om en person som Radovan Karadzic skulle väre psykopat er en form for nederlag. Han er ikke en psykopat, men en helt for sitt folk.

    Jeg kjenner ham ikke personlig, dessverre, men han har åpenbart färre karakterbrister enn den feige massen som löper hit og dit ettersom hvor pisken svir mest.

    At fienden synes han er grusom tjener bare til hans fordel.

    Selv om jeg er en iherdig antagonist til Bush, så synes jeg det er latterlig å påstå at han er dum, psykopat eller lider av annen form for galskap. Han representerer et system, et system jeg sybnes er livsfiendtlig og destruktivt, men han gjör det uten å ha varig svekkede sjelsevner.

    Det finnes mange statsledere og plikere jeg ikke liker, menjeg deler ikke ut diagnoser på dem, det er simpelt og har sjeldent noe med sannheten å gjöre. en del mennsker er lögnaktige, nedrige, simple, grådige etc., men det er likevel ved sine fulle fem.

    Våre egne såkalte ledere passer inn i mange av disse karakteristikene, og interesant nok så er det demokratiske ledere i Norge som oftest synes å ha diagnoser. Tidligere justsiminister Dörum, höyres Lönning,tidligere statsminister Jagland og Bondevik, alle har värt mentale kasus, men de er ikke galere enn at de er fullt tilregnelige i sine poltiske udåder. Det blir for enkelt å rope ut psykopat, og da kan man ikke stille menneskene til ansvar.

    Psykopater ofrer seg ikke for noe eller noen, det strider mot deres patologi.

    Vi trenger komprimisslöse menn som uansett värforhold vil kjempe til det siste for det de mener er rett, uten pardon. Det å ikke yte motstand i denne syke tid, det er det som er galskap og sykdom.

    Posted on 24-jul-08 at 12:06 am | Permalink

15. Lars-Toralf Storstra wrote:

    Å likna Karadzic med Hitler og Pol Pot er like skammeleg og historielaust som det å neitta holocaust.

    Posted on 24-jul-08 at 11:18 am | Permalink

16. Tor wrote:

    Helt enig i ditt siste svar til NR, AUTONOM!! Der satte du prikken over i’en. Det er dagens sosialdemokrater, enten de står til høyre som liberalister – eller til venstre som marxister; som har skapt dagens elendighet, politisk og moralsk – i sin relativisering og ego-destruksjon!! DISSE er de egentlige skyldige, ja, de egentlige forbrytere mot den sanne menneskelighet!!!!

    Posted on 24-jul-08 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

17. autonom wrote:

    Et apropos, Trond Wathne Tveiten ( Venstrepolitiker ), som går under navnet Trond ( over ) ville ikke publisere kommentarer som svarte på hans falske anklager om folkemord og etnisk rensning, utaen at han selv kunne legge frem noen form for fakta.

    Det han ikke ville skulle publiseres var fölgende info, som gir et helt annet bilde av propagandaversjonene av Srbrenica og konflikten på Balkan i det hele tatt:

    Diana Johnstone har skrevet bok og artikkel:

    http://www.counterpunch.org/johnstone10122005.html

    og

    http://www.amazon.com/Fools-Crusade-Yugoslavia-Western-Delusions/dp/158367084X

    Det er en bra start.

    I sedvanlig liberal skinndemokratisk praksis foretrekker man skjellsord som nazist, rasist, folkemorder etc. fremfor fakta.

    Overrasket? Nei, dessverre ikke.

    Disse menneskene vil heller at de nordiske og europeiske folk skal gå under, fremfor å ta selvkritikk for sitt mislykkede multikulti eksperiment som koster blod, lidelse og fordervelse for de involverte, uansett kultur og opprinnelse.

    Posted on 25-jul-08 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

18. Dad wrote:

    Through the neglect of a justice that went wrong.
    There are many homeborn UK people that see you as a Europen hero.
    Good luck and god bless all you Serbians.
    Leeds UK

    Posted on 31-jul-08 at 7:26 pm | Permalink

19. jill starr wrote:

    I really like his poems. They are really deep. The subject matter is strong but he is a talented poet,
    JIlly

    Posted on 22-apr-09 at 6:20 pm | Permalink

20. jill starr wrote:

    People have a right to write poetry on anything the want to and if you comprehend their poems to offend you just do not read them. That is what freedom of speech is about in my estimation. Live and let live and/or speak and allow those with inverse views speak also,

    Jilly NJ USA

    Posted on 22-apr-09 at 6:21 pm | Permalink

21. jill starr wrote:

    I forgot to mention that I am an extreme sociologist and find the poems of Karadzic extremely interesting and fascinating.

    No court in the world would dare try to prove because I read them and condone their existence that I have some type of genocidal tendencies as the Hague and ICTY tries to do by introducing the poems into some type of evidence against Karadzic in his war crimes trial.

    The idea is reprehensible (!) Legally.

    Posted on 22-apr-09 at 6:24 pm | Permalink

22. autonom wrote:

    Hi there Jill, thanks for your thoughtful comments on the Karadzic poems.

    Yes, I enjoyed the poems, and he is a complex and diverse personality of a kind which is rare among politicians of the latter day.

    The onslaught against the Serbian people in recent years was and is a crime against Europa and the sovereign right for a people to defend itself and its borders.

    And to be clear, I am not at all blind to the sheer brutalioty of this war from either side involved; no one was innocent here; but war is always blood, pain and immense brutality; that is why it is important to creeate lasting and realistic political solutions for the people and parts involved in a mortal conflict . To condemn one side as Thye Evil, is the least constructive way; and in war everyone is at their most evil.

    Kardzic stood up for his own people, and was in those terms no different than any other patriotic leader in war, although he as a person was and is far more interesting than most of his contemporaries.

    The matter could have been solved among the people of Croatia and Serbia, but USA/NATO/EU was not interested in a solution that separated Bosnia between the dominating ethnicities ( Serbs and Croats ), but to force the people there to live in a multi-cultural illusion that doesn’t exist anywhere, but on paper only delays an inevitable bloodshed in the future.

    Divide and conquer, is their obvious strategy.

    It is a disgrace to any justice that a piece of art can be held against you as evidence or even intent of crime on any scale. Especially in a time where anything is condoned as art, and the artist in the West is given an almost unlimited freedom of expressing himself/herself in ways that would normally be considered a crime if performed by a non-artist.

    And the recent actions which forced the Serbian poeple to abandon Kosovo proves that the policy of freedom and liberty for a sovereign people is at best hypocracy, unless you are part of the “just” alliance. Anyone who stand up against the new global entrepenurs, will be smashed to smithereens whenever possible, economically or martially.

    Posted on 22-apr-09 at 7:20 pm | Permalink

23. jill starr wrote:

    COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS: WHEREBY MLADIC & KARADZIC TREATED ME

    Wednesday, April 15, 2009
    Comparing Whereby Karadzic & Mladic Treate Me W/NJ Deteecties Harry SHarry Shortway, Pete Van Gilst, Sorchinski Could Face Murder Charges Sources Sa
    Thursday, April 2, 2009
    Harry Shortway, Pete Van Gilst, Sorchinski Could Face Murder Charges Sources Say>>

    The Instablog.Com website administration today stated on my blog account, I am no longer authorized to submit articles for some unknown reason. I surmise the reason may be I’m submitting too many articles at once. Hence, I opened an additional account just so I could post this follow up comment on my previously written article entitled, Comparing West Milford Detectives in New Jersey to the Treatment Received By Karadzic and Mladic in Serbia.

    Please read it.

    It is an extremely important legal case I am submitting to the Hague Court in the Netherlands as an individual complainant from here in the United States of America. I hope it will set an international precedent even in America people are abused by government officers.

    I am fully convinced after almost a decade of asking the legal governmental authorities at local, state and federal levels here in the United States of America to arrest and try Detective Harry Shortway and his Sgt. Laughlin in a court of law in America for attempting to murder me and moreover physically and emotionally torturing me and my family in 1990/1991,

    it is clear,

    the United States of America is either unwilling OR incapable of taking the bold moral measures to arrest Harry Shortway and associates giving him a fair trial here in America similarly to what American diplomats such as Hillary Clinton accuse Serbia of not submitting General Mladic to the Hague for trial.

    Hypocritical America, don’t you agree (?)

    This makes a mockery of genuine ideals insofar as human rights in America while manifesting extremely gross violations of human rights against me as well as attempted genocide committed against me by Harry Shortway (on account of allegedly wanting to kill me because I derive from a Jewish family background and was then married to a black on account of his fascist affiliations with the National Alliance KKK group). These crimes against me occurred only thirty minutes away from the United Nations Security Council in Manhattan; I, Jill Starr am an American citizen and previously wrote the UN about this in the early 1990s.

    All together now let’s remember the crime of ‘genocide’ in and of itself, can be the attempt to kill one OR thousands of members of any ethnic, religious group.

    More to come on this story.
    -

    I AM OFFERING A FINANCIAL REWARD FOR ANY AND ALL INFORMATION LEADING TO CAPTURE AND ARREST OF DETECTIVE HARRY SHORTWAY FORMER WEST MILFORD NEW JERSEY DETECTIVE AND HIS SGT. LAUGHLIN AND ASSOCIATES:

    1) SGT. LAUGHLIN (IS A TALL RED HAIRED MAN OVER 6 FEET IN HEIGHT AND SLIM BUILD- HE IS NOT VERY INTELLIGENT).

    SGT. LAUGHLIN WAS LAST SEEN BY ME IN BACK OF RYAN MACHINE COMPANY IN THE DRIVEWAY OF THE HOUSE I USED TO RENT WITH MY FAMILY OFF MACOPIN ROAD IN WEST MILFORD NEW JERSEY YANKING ME BY MY LONG HAIR AND BANGING MY HEAD AGAINST HIS POLICE CAR WHILE HIS ROCKIE PARTNER COP WATCHED. THEN HE SHOVED ME INTO HIS POLICE CAR IN HANDCUFFING WHICH HE CONTINUED TIGHTENING AGAINST MY WRISTS TILL THEY BEGAN BLEEDING IN PAIN WHILE I CRIED OUT IN AGONY AND TEARS FOR HIM TO STOP; HE WOULD NOT STOP AND CONTINUE LAUGHING WHILE HE DROVE ME TO UP TO SEE SHORTWAY WHO WAS WAITING FOR ME AT THE WEST MILFORD POLICE STATION.

    I AM OFFERING A FINANCIAL REWARD FOR ANY AND ALL INFORMATION LEADING TO CAPTURE AND ARREST OF DETECTIVE HARRY SHORTWAY FORMER WEST MILFORD NEW JERSEY DETECTIVE AND HIS SGT. LAUGHLIN AND ASSOCIATES:

    1) SGT. LAUGHLIN (IS A TALL RED WAVY HAIRED MAN OVER 6 FEET IN HEIGHT AND SLIM BUILD- HE IS NOT VERY INTELLIGENT).

    SGT. LAUGHLIN WAS LAST SEEN BY ME IN BACK OF RYAN MACHINE COMPANY IN THE DRIVEWAY OF THE HOUSE I USED TO RENT IN HIGHCREST LAKE COMMUNITY WITH MY FAMILY OFF MACOPIN ROAD IN WEST MILFORD NEW JERSEY YANKING ME BY MY LONG HAIR AND BANGING MY HEAD AGAINST HIS POLICE CAR ABOUT TEN TIMES NONSTOP WHILE HIS ROCKIE PARTNER COP STOOD THERE DOING NOTHING MERELY WATCHING ME BE ABUSED.

    THEN SGT LAUGHLIN SHOVED ME INTO HIS POLICE CAR IN HANDCUFFS WHICH HE CONTINUED TIGHTENING AGAINST MY WRISTS TILL THEY BEGAN BLEEDING IN PAIN WHILE I CRIED OUT IN AGONY AND TEARS FOR HIM TO STOP; HE WOULD NOT STOP AND CONTINUED LAUGHING WHILE HE DROVE ME TO UP TO SEE SHORTWAY WHO WAS WAITING FOR ME AT THE WEST MILFORD POLICE STATION.

    THIS FINANCIAL REWARD IS CONTINGENT UPON ANY FINANCIAL SETTLEMENT I MAY RECEIVE IN THE FUTURE FROM THE THREE GRADUATE SCHOOLS FORMERLY DISCRIMINATING AGAINST ME IN THE MOST VILE MANNERS IN THE NJ AND NYC AREAS.

    I WILL OFFER SPLIT EQUITABLE FINANCIAL REWARD OF 50% OF ANY MONEY I RECEIVE TO THOSE AGENCIES AND/OR INDIVIDUALS COURAGEOUS ENOUGH TO HELP BRING THESE RUTHLESS DETECTIVES AND THEIR SGT’S TO JUSTICE AND JAIL.

    AND, IF AMERICAN CANNOT FIND THE MORAL AND POLITICAL WILLPOWER TO BRING THEM TO JUSTICE AND TRIAL HERE IN THE USA, I WANT THEM EXTRADITED TO THE HAGUE ICC COURT.

    In friendship and diplomacy my reputation for honesty proceeds me so all interested persons and/or parties in helping me bring Shortway and his Sgt Laughlin from West Milford NJ to trial at teh Hague,

    can rest assured I will uphold my end of the reward agreement shall I receive financial settlement myself from the aforementioned colleges in the near future.
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    lpcyusa said…

    I Felt many Times Safer With General Ratko Mladic Than I Do Sitting Alone In My Apartment In Bloomingdale, NJ USA

    As an after thought on my book. I doubt very much that I met Mr. Mladic on a ”baor restaurant.” There was no one else present having dinner.

    It as more like a living and/or conference setting and seems to me now to be more like a private yacht. I have never really been on one before but it reminded me of photos I’ve seen of the interior of Onassis’s yachts.

    I felt many times more safer sitting with General Ratko Mladic Than I Do Sitting At Home In My Apartment In Bloomingdale, NJ US!

    Although it may sound foreign to many here in America, I would feel safer having the Serbian Army as my bodyguards here at my house in Bloomingdale, NJ where I rent a small apartment to protect me from the local townships’ corrupt law enforcement officials and if I had teh finances I hire a few.
    April 2, 2009 6:57 AM
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